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sweet_life
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| It has long been, held that petroleum comes from decaying organic matter, yet is even incorrectly called 'fossil fuels'.In the Soviet Union, scientists have created oil from non biological matter at tempurature's around 1500 degrees at the pressure of 50,000 atmospheres (the same pressure as the earth's upper mantle). They say that organic matter that appears in oil we collect, is really just contamination.Why is this science, never presented to students in the west?Does it not really show that science in the west is really controlled by something other than the altruistic component that we were lead to believe when we were children?http://www.kolbecenter.org/Bennett_welloiled.htmlthis question is posted here because the oposers of religion are constantly calling on the name of science to discredit religion.I am saying that science is not the congenial big brother that is looking out for your best interests in the way that it looks out for the special interests.Otherwise, these Russian studies would be well published here in the west.http://www.gasresources.net/The lessons of the past teach us that, in their search for truth, scientists have made a virtue of error. Whenever they publish what they claim is an important new idea or experimental result, they know their colleagues will take it to pieces looking for logical or experimental errors. This ruthlessness towards mistakes has been one of the engines of scientific enterprise.Not that the engine always runs smoothly. Far from it. There is often plenty of room for disagreement over what is a scientific fact. And there are ample opportunities for bullies and ignoramuses to win arguments through rhetoric rather than reason. The entire history of science is full of tales of rows, wild-goose chases and ill-fated predictions by people who can't conceive of knowledge beyond what they already know.http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg16021625.500.html |
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jacks_insanity
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| Probably Global Warming too..at least that one for sure |
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theshadow01
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| why is this question posted in the religious column? |
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corrosionfactor
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| The west has the best science in the world. And if I had to trust anyones science it would be the wests. |
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CJ7119
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| Who funds the Kolbe Center?And is that article peer reviewed?If not, why do you select it as an example? |
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O
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| Science said the earth was flat. Science said we would never split the atom. Of course scientists have been wrong. |
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LoveMonkey
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| So you're saying science is wrong because scientists disproved that idea? Kind of a contradiction. |
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RotcehZepol
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| Soviet scientists with one experiment prove something to you? Poor child. |
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MixedGurl
Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| The Soviet Union no longer exists, and hasn't done for fifteen years or so.Sounds something like Velikovsky's theory that oil came from some kind of planetary collision or near-miss. |
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foongwk140804
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| Uh, Darwin's theory of evolution. And scientists are not only wrong about global warming being the fault of man, they are lying when they say man can "fix" it. |
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morwood_leyland
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| That's why I think it's wrong for atheists to take every scientific postulations so literally. Often what's supposedly "science" is used as a propaganda tool for inculcating gullible minds (and to steer the masses politically) as well.Edit: No science is not always exact. There are many things that are impossible for us to measure and "test" and that is why many scientific theories remain theories. Even many "facts" of yesterday end up being disproved later on with advances in technology. |
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VickiR
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| There's true science, then there's junk science / yellow journalism.Examples: True science says global warming is mainly due to solar activity and natural cycles of atmospheric variation.Junk science / yellow journalism gives Al Gore an Oscar and the nobel prize, simultaneously a court in England rules his movie can't be shown to students without disclaimers as it's so factually flawed.PS You're hot! |
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PaulaRevere
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| I don't understand the point of your question. Oil is impure when it is drilled. That is why it has to be refined before it can be used. The Russians were very good at not telling nor teaching the truth. How much oil can the Russians produce by their method? |
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floyd_n_dana2001
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| oil does come from decaying matter. its just that there is kindof 2 ways 2 make it, except it isnt exactly the same substance. it takes that pressure to make it, yes they git that right, but stillanother reason is because it probably isnt confirmed that that is true |
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PatryckO
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: If science is wrong about oil? What else is it wrong about? |
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| True science and the quest for knowledge has and always will face opposition from politics, religion, ignorance, and greed. |
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