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Brandy · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 4

Dont you think he would have said there were WMD's. So what your telling me is that ALL these intel agencies are lying as well, just for oil:AlbaniaState Intelligence Service (SHISH); successor to SHiK AlgeriaDépartement du Renseignement et de la Sécurité ArgentinaSecretaría de Inteligencia (SI) (Secretariat of Intelligence) (former SIDE) Escuela Nacional de Inteligencia (ENI) (National Intelligence School) Dirección de Observaciones Judiciales (DOJ) (Directorate of Judicial Surveillance) Servicio Federal de Lucha contra el Narcotráfico (SEFECONAR) (Federal Counternarcotics Service) Sistema de Inteligencia Nacional (SIN) (National Intelligence System) Dirección Nacional de Inteligencia Criminal (DNIC) (National Directorate of Criminal Intelligence) Dirección Nacional de Inteligencia Estratégica Militar (DNIEM) (National Directorate of Strategic Military Intelligence) Inteligencia del Servicio Penitenciario Federal (Federal Penitentiary Service Intelligence) Inteligencia de la Policía Federal Argentina (Argentine Federal Police Intelligence) Inteligencia de la Policía Bonaerense (SIPBA) (Buenos Aires Police Intelligence) Inteligencia de la Gendarmería Nacional Argentina (SIGN) (Argentine National Gendarmerie Intelligence) Inteligencia de la Prefectura Naval Argentina (SIPN) (Argentine Naval Prefecture Intelligence) Inteligencia de la Policía de Seguridad Aeroportuaria (Airport Security Police Intelligence) Unidad de Inteligencia Financiera (UIF) (Financial Intelligence Unit) Jefatura de Inteligencia del Estado Mayor Conjunto de las Fuerzas Armadas (J-2) (Intelligence Department of the Joint General Staff of the Armed Forces) Central de Reunión de Inteligencia Militar (CRIM) (Military Intelligence Collection Center) Servicio de Inteligencia del Ejército (SIE) (Army Intelligence Service) Servicio de Inteligencia Naval (SIN) (Naval Intelligence Service) Servicio de Inteligencia de la Fuerza Aérea (SIFA) (Air Force Intelligence Service) AustraliaAustralian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) Australian Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS) Australian Protective Service (APS) Defence Intelligence Organisation (DIO) Defence Imagery and Geospatial Organisation (DIGO) Defence Signals Directorate (DSD) Office of National Assessments (ONA)AzerbaijanMilli Tehlukesizlik Nazirliyi (MTN) (Ministry of National Security) Daxili İşlər Nazirliyi (DIN) (Ministry Of Internal Affairs) [edit] BBangladeshDirectorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) BelgiumVeiligheid van de Staat / Staatsveiligheid / Sûreté de l'État (SV/SE) (State Security Service) Algemene Dienst Inlichting en Veiligheid / Service Général du Renseignement et de la Sécurité (ADIV/SGRS) (General Information and Security Service) Bosnia and HerzegovinaObavještajno sigurnosna agencija (OSA) Agencija za istragu i zaštitu (SIPA) BrazilAgência Brasileira de Inteligência (ABIN) (Brazilian Intelligence AgencyBulgariaNacionalna razuznavatelna sluzhba (NRS) (National Intelligence Service) - overseas intelligence agthering service under presidential supervision Nacionalna sluzhba sigurnost - national counter-intelligence service under Ministry of Interior supervision Nacionalen komitet za sigurnost (NKS) (Committee for State Security) - former regime's counter-intelligence service [edit] CCanadaCanadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) Communications Security Establishment (CSE) Canadian Forces Intelligence Branch (DND) Criminal Intelligence Service Canada (CISC) Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC) Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP)ChileAgencia Nacional de Inteligencia(ANI) ColombiaDepartamento Administrativo de Seguridad (DAS) (Administrative Department of Security) Dirección de Inteligencia de la Policía Nacional (DIPOL) Costa RicaDireccion de Inteligencia y Seguridad Nacional (DIS) (Intelligence and National Security Department) CroatiaSigurnosno-obavještajna agencija (SOA) (Security and Intelligence Agency) Vojna sigurnosno obavještajna agencija (VSA) (Military Security and Intelligence Agency)This is just A-C that agreed with Bushy

AustinG · Joined: 15 Oct 2003 Posts: 2

Kerry had the same intelligence as his words that he spoke has shown us. Whether or not he would have done anything in response is the question. I suspect he would have appeased them, he is too weak and too liberal.

PureGenius2208 · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 4

If kerry wasn't defrauded out of the office, He would have continued looking for Bin Laden and NOT ATTACKED IRAQFLIP"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." G.W. Bush, 9/13/01 Washington Post, 9/17/01, UPI: Bush said he wants accused terrorist leader Osama bin Laden "dead or alive.” “I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI AP, 12/14/01: President Bush pledged anew Friday that Osama bin Laden will be taken "dead or alive."FLOP: Capturing OBL no longer a priority: G.W. Bush, 3/13/02: I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

venicefloridarealtor8777 · Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 8

John Kerry would have called our troops terrorist related to Gengas Kahn. Oh I forgot, he already did in congressional hearings in the 1970's on the Vietnam. He is a wuss and wouldn't have done a dam thing.

humble24 · Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 5

Since Kerry would not have dismantled Clinton's Terror Watch Groups, like Rice did in March 2001, 9/11 would have not happened. Rice dismissed every one of the 100's of Warnings she got.

Legend0113 · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 5

Talk about backing up your question with sources!Kerry's a bone head.A very RICH bone head.

frank_adams917 · Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 6

I believe that if Senator (Lieutenant) Kerry were President at the time of 9-11, we would still be going through the negotiation process with UBL and the Taliban in Afghanistan. This would have been at the loss of the military, by Saddam, who were in Northern and Southern Iraq protecting the No Fly Zone. This would also include a very large number of innocent unarmed Americans both in this country and abroad.

babygirlree · Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 7

I agree with Babe. There is no way for us to know what he would have done with this information. I also kind of agree that he is a bit of a "wuss"; he is from my home state and he is commonly referred to around here as "Hanoi John" - mostly by vets. Many see him as a total sellout. They would know, being their feet were on the ground, wouldn't you say? Anyway...overall I'm happy that we didn't have to find out. I'm not a fan of GW (although I've been accused repeatedly here by no-minds - amazing) however I am even less of a fan of Kerry's.

Twilight · Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 5

you conveniently forgetting one very important detail.The intelligence from ALL of these agencies intel was derived from a single source. An Iraqi exile scientist, who was seeking asylum in other countries, and cooked up this story as currency to get out of Iraq. Most of the agencies you mentioned were not involved in the original briefing by the CIA to the president. The two that were involved, was France's and Italy's intelligence agencies and ours.Now conveniently you leav out another detail..... Bush IGNORED ALL OF THE OTHER INTELLIGENCE REPORTS FROM CIA, FBI, NSA...that contradicted the story of this ONE MAN SEEKING ASYLUM from Iraq. He based his assesment on a single letter from this single unreliable source. That is what we call "cherrypicking" intelligence. Not only were other intel reports ignored, but agents such as Valerie Plame were punished for her husband "the US embassador to Niger) not cooperating in making a link with Saddam and WMD's. You also conveniently leave out the fact that 20 different UN weapons inspector's repeatedly came to the conclusion that Saddam DID NOT HAVE A WMD PROGRAM !Hans Blix wrote a great book about all of this...you should read it.Fact remains....this war is based on a lie, and Bush lied to get us there.

mybrainhurts · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 5

don't you think most of these places get all their info from the same one or - say - four sources? it's pretty easy to cook the books on intel. especially considering the forgery of the Italian doc re: yellowcake.yet, there are STILL some libs who read all these reports and decided against the war in iraq, anyway. see, iraq was never a threat to america.and, remember, Kerry ran in 2004. you're probably talking about Gore if you mean pre- 9/11.but iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, anywayand all of this hypothetical bs doesn't matter - the neo-libs never advocated "regime change" in iraq during the clinton admin. iraq was a fabrication of an issue by the conservatives who stood to profit from the regime change: whether that is directly in oil, or military, defense, security and rebuilding contracts.and see what we have for it.

Thomas2SellRealtor · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 3

Many of those countries said Iraq had WMD, when Iraq had WMDs, back in the eighties and nineties when Saddam killed thousands of Kurds with poison gas.Or went into Kuwait, during the first Gulf War, when he lost his abilty to continue to develope WMD was severly curtailed and he instead turned to living the high life and allowing his sons to run rampant and torture and kill for fun, as they were very sadistic, far more than their poppa.Kerry, having actually gone to war, and won the Bronze star and three Purple Hearts, is, like many veterans, not a cowboy about sending others in to fight for less than reasoned and weighted decisions. As we can see from the past five years, just shouting about getting the bastards doesn't compare to a good plan both entrance and exit.It has impacted on many areas of our lives, and it will continue to as gas prices are soaring daily. We destabilized an important oil producing area, and now we are paying the price for his inability to either protect the oil flow or train the Iraqis to care for their own country.The war has sapped our ability to fight, drained our treasury for years to come, weakened our ties to one-time allies, and done us no good in any respect, not even with terrorists who are twice as angry with us as they were before.Bush chose what to give as reasons, Bush ignored the more recent information of the on-the-ground inspectors assertions of the UN saying they were wrong, Bush believed what he wanted to believe and smeared or fired anyone who brought him information he didn't want. Thats wrong, he was wrong. What gets to me most though, is Osama, the man who attacked us is still out there while we are bogged down in a mess we will be paying for years into the future, while Bushs rich friends get a tax break.

JohnS1888 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 3

Just to correct you on something.You mentioned Canada and I have to respond.It was the position of the Canadian government that the Iraq war was about regime change, not WMD's, which is illegal under international law.As far as you naming the RCMP, CSIS, etc, as sources for intel on Saddam's WMD's....well, that's not true.The Canadian intel agencies, and I'm assuming, many other intel organizations got their info from the CIA.Needless to say, we were not convinced, even less so when Colin Powell made a fool of himself in front of the UN with some very weak "evidence" of Iraq's WMD programs.Remember the international cry to let weapons inspectors do their jobs? That was us, you should have listened.And to answer your question, yes, Kerry would have been fed the same line of bull.

Berries · Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 5

Bonesman Kerry was an illuminatist fall guy- why didn't he contest the e-voting results despite the massive discrepancy in exit poll results in key states?